The first letter on the sidewall of your tire tells you what kind of tire it is. That means your speedometer will be off by 3.5% vs the factory tires. These are also not a good choice if you foresee yourself in a deep snowpack or thick mud. Tread depth is even across each as well as all 4. Load range D and E come on 275s and larger. Here are some calculations that may help in your decision. They provide great traction on the road in all conditions. They provided good traction in all-seasons (dry, wet, snow, ice) conditions at the early stages of their life but towards the 20k-25k mile mark they showed signs of lost traction. All these factors translate into a great road option. Durability and grip are key strong points to this Falkens performance off the pavement. That way, youll be able to enjoy all of the benefits without any of the detriments. This tread pattern is obviously is built for meeting off-road needs. As a quick rule of thumb, assume the 285 tire is equal to the 33-inch tire. I ran these on the tail end of a purchased 4Runner with 40K miles and then put them through a final winter before replacing them. On a scale from 1-10, I would place the hum at a 3-5 and a howl at a 7-9 if that makes sense. Ive been able to tackle most trails without using 4wd with these because of their ability to bite. Needless to say, revisiting this guide and considering a move to Cooper AT3 XLT, Hi guys, do any of you know if I can install this size 285/70/17 of tires on my 4runner if I already installed a rough country 3IN SUSPENSION LIFT kit without having any issues of rubbing.Thanks. For this article, if we use example tires like P26570R17 and 28570R17. Pretty obvious they are trying to compete with the Duratracs. I have never aired them down or tried any local off-road trails with them. Daily commuting-weekend warriors will fair fine with this selection if its the look they want. Letters R stands for radial tires. Hi Brenan! Ok, so I went with the 285/70R17 Duratracs. I put 285/70/17s on my 4runner in 2016. Almost no noticable rub. Well, best is all relative. Being a hybrid, it has various traits that also make it a decent off-road. These are more of a light SUV crossover design, not a medium-duty Truck or SUV tire. The largest 4Runner community in the world. German engineers are famous for diligence, precision and efficiency, the same values that stand behind Continental's past and present . Read more #Continental; 2022/09/20. This tire definitely errs on the side of MT due to the lack of siping and larger blocks. The number after the dash specifies the aspect ratio of the tire. If we compare these two tires, then we can see that 285 is wider than 265. Even if some people consider being loud a negative, I can hardly hear them over my exhaust and radio. The on-road performance with Cooper is pretty impressive in their AT3 lineup. Cooper STT Pro Mud Terrain Tires (295/75R17) This style of tire is truly designed to claw at the rock, mud, snow - or any other severe terrain you may find yourself on. The diameter of the 265 is 31.6 inches and for the 285 the diameter is 32.7 inches. Choosing the right tire for your vehicle can be a daunting task. The best thing to do for some owners is to call a reputable shop (Big-O, Les Schwab, Etc.) This tire is designed for wet roads. On the other hand, the Wheel size of the LT28570R17 is 17 inches. I love the articles! It provides decent all-year road traction from light to mild snow and rain. If you are looking for a 3PMSF rating in this category consider the Bridgestone Blizzak LT, Michelin Latitude X-ICE, Michelin LTX Winter, or for a cheaper option, look at a Firestone Winterforce variant. The harder you push these softer tires off-road the faster they wear. The Dueler H/T features a symmetrical independent block tread design that provides great all-around traction but is by no means a snow or severe weather option. The Michelin LTX M/S2 is the original design of the two choices. I wouldnt trust all that but no first-hand experience hard to say. Since they sit taller there is less clearance. And for a soft tire, they do great on mud, snow, sand, gravel, loose rock and general fire roads as well. Went with new 285/70/17 Nitto Ridge Grappler's. I have had these on my 4Runner for two years now and the performance on-road specifically has been amazing. In this blog post, we will take a look at two popular options: 265 tires and 285 tires. These are great for the offroader who daily drives their rigs to and from work, then takes their rigs off-road on the weekends. The diameter of the 265 is 31.6 inches and for the 285 the diameter is 32.7 inches. However, they aren't as good in wet weather conditions as 285s. This is a strong compound built for the challenge of withstanding weight. The KM3 is a huge upgrade from BFGoodrichs KM2. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'tireblogger_com-box-4','ezslot_3',108,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-tireblogger_com-box-4-0');As you can see, both 265 and 285 tires have their pros and cons. No,I wouldnt want to go narrower than 265s. The Guard Dogs are great for a weekend project 44 truck not your daily driver. R:This character means that the tire is made with radial construction. All-terrains are great for the road, loose rock, gravel, moguls, sand, and different types of dirt or even clay. The tire does have the Baja look similar to the KO2 which also features consistency for regular surface contact. If you are looking for a tire to replace your factory set but youre not looking for an off-road option, these Michelin Defender LTX M/S are something to consider. If you find yourself commuting or around-town driving on wet, icy or snow-covered road terrain in the winter, a set of 3PMSF rated tires will be for you. 285 tires tend to have better traction than their lower-profile counterparts thanks to the extra rubber gripping your road surface. I have put the KM3 through its paces going over large boulders, through slushy mud pits and general dirt trails, it just keeps going. The letters LT, either at the beginning or at the end of a tire size, may mean that it is for light trucks. Note that these sizes are in millimeters. I do drive mostly on paved roads between 35mph and 65mph but when it does rain down here the mud is pretty nasty, and I like to hit the tank trails around Fort Hood on my way to fishing spots, so I am leaning more towards the Duratracs. Also keep in mind that the weather condition in the area where you live. They produce a hum or in some cases, a howl depending on the tread pattern. The Firestone X/T was built specifically to give anywhere traction and durability. I wasn't aware this tire even existed. I was leaning towards the Toyo AT IIIs but this article has not convinced me that they are worth trying? This is your go-to for a well-rounded option that will grip any rocky or smooth surface all under the most severe weather, rain or shine. Additionally, I had many more choices and looks for the 275s in my area than I did for the 285s. Discussion in 'Wheels & Tires' started by brochacho, Jul 1, 2016. They also have their trail grip sidewall design which helps in the deep mud, sand, and snow. The Firestone A/T2 was built specifically to handle wet performance and on-road handling by increasing the surface to help water evacuation and increase performance with wet stopping and handling. Granted, I wasnt in bad conditions to challenge the wear & tear regarding their weather handling. Even on light mud and light snow terrain, these ATs did quite well. If your only drive is around town, in short bursts or even to just the trailhead, and you are looking for an affordable off-road option, these Guard Dogs are for you. For this example, 70 designates for the height which is equal to 70% of the tires width. I am going back and forth on either 265/70r17 or 285/70r17. Additionally the siping had almost disappeared. Finally, the road noise is something to be adjusted to as well as coming from an all-terrain. They worked amazingly in the snow. Generally speaking they did great on-road in most conditions unless there were major patches of ice or snow. Its a very capable all-season highway and on-road tire. This hybrid tread (technically an AT but has many MT characteristics) design with deep lugs performs superb off-road, gripping just about everything it rolls over. Deep snow and mud will get stuck in the lugs leaving you wanting and often needing more. Additionally, they offer a really strong life expectancy. With an AT expected to last this long something has to give. With this said, there is a big difference in running 33 vs. 34 tires. As I said above, they are well suited for hauling lots of weight. The SRA comes stock on some 4Runners from the factory and its no wonder why. I think the Goodyear Duratracs are great for someone who is looking to have a good off-road option and drive through loose dirt, mud or snow. The main stand out for on-road handling comes from the open shoulder slots. When aired down, this all-season performs like a rugged all-terrain. The only difference between the 265 75R16 and 285 75R16 tire is in the width size. Once you upgrade to larger tires, your 4runner will be covering more ground than your gauges show. I have only put about 500 miles on these, but these are impressive so far. The OE tire for these trims is either the Firestone Winterforce 2 UV or the Goodyear Wrangler AT/S. The S/T Maxx was developed in Australia for the toughest conditions imaginable. These were engineered to be tough and perform on-road as well as off-road. The ride is phenomenal for an MT. NOTE: The width of a tire is measured from sidewall to sidewall in millimeters, not the contact patch only. They bark man, they bark. All-terrains are not loud (hum) like your typical MTs and should perform well when you need them to off-road, but this doesnt apply to all of them. MTs have a reputation for being louder than ATs and all-season. They have big and aggressive shoulder lugs, and deep siping. They are very heavy duty and have a reputation for long on-road life as far as mud terrains are concerned. Load range D and E come on 275s and larger although they have made changes to their line so this may not be 100% exact. So, whether youre looking for a mud terrain that can take you to hell and back or just look badass while youre shopping at the mall, the BFGoodrich KM3 is the all-around winner in my opinion. This is a great option for a 2wd 4Runner or for someone that uses 4wd on a very rare occasion or for someone that lives a climate that rarely sees wet, snowy, or muddy conditions. Letters are speed ratings, not load ranges I thought. The Trail Hogs are for the driver who spends most of their time off-road. They feature robust 3d sipes in the tread blocks and have earned the 3 Peak Mountain Snowflake (3PMSF) which prepares them for server wet and snow surfaces. Do they rub? I absolutely love it. Keep in mind this is a budget option so budget comes with some type of downfall right? This increased height will also help to prevent overheating which is why many tires fail. These were built with an advanced construction to help resist chips and tears to maximize life. Whereas the 285 tires were $350 to $410. The lower load range is going to offer you a more comfortable ride although that is to be debated. I appreciate how many tires you reviewed, very thorough. Add in the benefit of their snow-rated capability and you can be confident that this tire will get you back home after a trip into the woods. Saw-tooth technology (1) traps the snow in the tread for great snow-on-snow traction, special Aqua Vac channels (2) featuring deep center grooves improve hydroplaning and micro-gauge zig-zag sipes (4) improve stability and assist with . After putting 10K miles on these, I truly enjoyed these and for ATs would buy them again. Well I looked it up and the SL in that size is wider. I know most people love them but not me. In this comparison, we can see that 225 is wider than 215. I wouldnt recommend these for your daily driver to work if youre not getting off-road at least monthly, as thats where these Trail Hogs really shine. Available in three different versions, the P, LT, and Xtreme the Toyo AT2 are a commonly ran option on light to medium-duty trucks. The aspect ratio refers to how high a tires cross-section is. They are priced well for a 10 ply but may take finesse getting them to balance well. The tread blocks, shoulder, and sidewalls on the AT2s are aggressive enough to handle most of what you throw at them. The major decline in traction I noticed was around 30k-40k on wet, snow, icy conditions but they did perform great when new. They feature a mud slinger which provides a fresh grip in the mud, continuously throwing out the old mud. It offers 5% better mud traction, 8% better rock traction, and 27% stronger sidewalls. They have been absolutely fantastic in the wet, cold, and off road. They have deeper grooves/knobs than a standard a/t and rarely slip on most surfaces. The Falken Wildpeaks best suit the likes of those who daily drive their rig, but also need to feel confident on the trail. Suspension/Wheels/Tires: 3: 10-01-2015 02:37 PM: Stock P265/70R17 Dunlop Grandtrek AT/20 vs Nitto Terra Grapplers . Gravel roads they handled great but just like any wide lug or tread block, they tend to pick up more rocks due to the bigger grooves. The calculation results are presented in the form of visual infographics, on which tire with size 265/50 R18 is on top, and tire with size 285/45 R22 below. Even my Limited came with skinny tires now got 285/70R17. We recommend trying to find a happy medium between the two options by choosing mid-size tires that offer more traction than standard ones but dont sacrifice fuel economy or wear out your car quickly. In fact, you can barely hear them they have great road manners and are comfortable on the ears. Which of the following are priorities for you. For reference, hum is a little less severe than a howl. Thinking of doing 275/70R17 BFGOODRICH ALL-TERRAIN T/A KO2 on a stock TRD Pro wheel on a 2020 4Runner TRD Off Road. thanks. The 265/70r17 tires are 31.6" tall. Off-road the Terra Grapplers are going to offer additional tread over a highway tire for example, but dont expect them to push through extreme terrain or last into the 50k+ mile mark (again they didnt for us). oz. Whether you like the hum/howl or not comes down to personal preference. Only you can decide. The all-new KM3 was released in early 2019 and has destroyed its predecessor. This new EVO MT is more or less an upgrade from the STT Pro which is saying something. Great write-up guys! As you increase to highway speeds, tire noise takes over as the primary vehicle sound. Goodyear offers a 65,000 mile treadwear warranty with the SUV sizes and a 50,000 mile treadwear warranty with the light truck sizes of this model. This is one of the better-looking more aggressive-looking tires in my opinion. I feel like at every corner, stop, turn and brake they do their job quite well. The red letters are unmistakable. The KM3 ranges in price from $172 per to $508; of course, size plays a factor in the cost. Coming from a Toyo AT2 Xtreme, these EVO MT tires had better manners on the road which was somewhat shocking. If you are looking for a well-rounded all-terrain, built for hauling/towing, well-mannered on-road, and fully capable off-road this is truly a special tire you may want to consider. Good, fairly quiet and well mannered for a mud terrain-like design. I'll report back when I get them installed. They are by far the best options I have run in terms of off-road handling. But, the narrower tires perform better than the wider tires. That said, I have spent lots of time getting loads of material delivered on un-improved trails through someones property. They have amazing performance, traction, durability and wear. They provided a comfortable ride all while gripping the surface they were pushed through. Asymmetrical Tread Pattern (Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT 35X12.5), Cooper Evolution M/T (Mud Terrain) Tires: 35X12.5. 35X12.5 Toyo M/Ts 1.25 Spidertrax Wheel Spacers on Relations Race Wheels. I got 5.5 years or 90,000 miles out of them!! At first, as with most, they perform incredibly well out of the gates. The SA have many more size options including 275/70/17 but the Duratracs limit me to either 265/70/17 or 285/70/17. Thanks, They rub and wear unevenly. After doing some searching on Goodyear's website, I found that the price for a good 275 tire was between $250 to $380 per tire. Someone who wants a more aggressive tire with great performance off-road as well as great day-to-day on-road performance. We can say that 265 tires are generally a good option for smaller vehicles or drivers looking to get maximum fuel efficiency. The dealer says there will be rubbing. This option is for those who want a uniform AT tread pattern (a Baja look) that can handle most situations. Those who regularly ride mud that needs to dig in or are timid in rainy conditions on the road should probably look elsewhere. I have about 25,000 miles on them and I am pretty sure that I will be able to get at least 40,000 miles out of them (maybe even 45,000) which I think is pretty good for a relatively inexpensive AT tire. I have a out 20,000K on my Toyo Open Country A/T IIs. Copyright 2023 Trail4Runner.com Trail Made Co. |. Whether you are looking for a Highway, All-Terrain (AT) or Mud-Terrain (MT), this overview will help you decide which type, style and brands might be best for your driving style. I run 285/70/17 with a leveling kit and 2 lift and have no problems. These are great for your commuter or a daily driver who drives around town, to and from work, on the highway often or on a mostly paved road with the occasional gravel road terrain. Your tires have to be pretty economical in terms of fuel economy. I got lucky and the new load range C just came out today and. I do not want to do any modifications until I got the lift down the road. I got that one via Discount Tire, should have returned it. If you see the T, that means its the temporary tire. 5th Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (2010-2024), 4th Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (2003-2009), 3rd Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1996-2002), 2nd Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1990-1995), 1st Gen 4Runner Parts Marketplace (1984-1989), Starter Replacement & Rear Shock Replacement, Installing aftermarket radio with switch panel, Radiator Replacement/Tranny Cooler Install, 2UZ-FE (V8) Power Steering Pump Replacement and Fluid Flush, Reverse Lights (In Reflectors/Under the bumper), WYNNsky Heavy Duty Tire Repair Tools Kit - 54 Pcs Set Truck Tool Box for Motorcycle, ATV, Jeep, Truck, Tractor Flat Tire Plug Kit. I would say this is a middle of the road performer on the street. All-terrains typically provide great on-road (highway and city) traction while also offering great off-road traction. Wide Range of Passenger, RunFlat & 4x4 Tyre Specials. Technically Cooper refers to them as an All-Terrain, however, they have many Mud Terrain characteristics. The Nitto Terra Grapplers are great for both on-road driving and off-road driving, but not perfect as they didnt last that long for us. They have features such as mud and rock rejectors which keep the tread cleared out giving you that constant traction. The KM3 is a huge upgrade from BFGoodrichs KM2. Before and After - Dunlop GrandTreks Vs Bf Goodrich Ko2s. The all-new KM3 was released in early 2019 and has destroyed its predecessor. Mud Terrains are typically going to provide the most amount of traction possible for a street-legal radial. I keep them at 34 PSI. The largest 4Runner community in the world. The calculation results are presented in the form of visual infographics, on which tire with size 265/70 R15 is on top, and tire with size 285/50 R18 below. After: 285/70/17 Bf Goodrich Ko2s on Icon Stage 2s. I currently have the stock 265/65r17 Brigestones. If your factory tires are coming to the end of there life and you dont do much off-road but are looking for high quality wet and snow traction, you should take a look at these. They're a good choice for larger vehicles and those who need their car to perform well in tough weather conditions. This character means that the tire is made with radial construction. The size of the tire is measured in inches. The P26570R17 means that the wheel size is 17 inches. Buy Tyres Online At Fundi Tyres. vs 285/75-16 vs 265/70-16 vs 235/85-16 vs 265/70-17 vs 285/70-16 vs 285/70-17 vs 255/85-16 vs 245/75-16 Send us your suggestions and ideas for the tire size calculator! Even aired down to 15PSI on 285/75R17 the tire lugs and sidewall struggled to grip the snow. The load range C are only 54 pounds. Let us know if you have any questions, concerns or simply want to share your opinion with others. How much lift? (Tire Width Always Refers To The Measurement From One Sidewall To Another), This Number Indicates That Your Tire Has A Width Of 285 Millimeters. The large alternating scoops on the tread blocks just continue to grip and tear through whats in front of them. It is 10.9" vs 10.7". The Kumho MT71 features an incredibly aggressive tread pattern with large voids and increased block stiffness for better traction. On-road driving through icy and snowy conditions is very common for 4Runner owners and having a tire that can perform in such conditions is paramount for safety. The AT3 XLTs are the most robust option in Coopers AT3 line-up. The M/T2 also features 20% more biting edges along the sidewall to help keep you in control in snowy weather and on slick surfaces. The Discoverer S/T Maxx is perfect for a 4Runner owner who is planning a long trip and needs to go just about anywhere without the risk of tire failure. 285 is the tire WIDTH. Come to Ed Morse Auto Group to drive or buy this Chevrolet Silverado 1500: 2GCPADED5P1128862. This means this tire only fits with a wheel that is 17 inches in size. 34 tires require much more trimming, bending, and cutting than a 33 tire. How do you like your rough country lift? Our stock 4Runner has a 31 tire (265/70R17 - 31.61). The spare tire fits in the spare . Great treadwear, low road-noise, a high level of ride comfort & all-weather performance contribute to their pleasant on-road manners. Set of 4. . Theyre also a great value for money so if youre on a budget, but know better than to cheap out on your tires entirely, these are definitely for you. If you are unsure which option is suitable for your vehicle, take a look at our comprehensive tire guide to find out! We took a few corners pretty quickly and never felt like I was losing control of the vehicle. This style of tire is truly designed to claw at the rock, mud, snow or any other severe terrain you may find yourself on. Thinner Side-Wall 265/70/17 Dunlops The first three numbers in a tire size are the width of the tire. Skippy8771, Jul 3, 2016. The only downside off-road is they may bust lugs if you spin them hard on rocks. New to AZ. Compare 265/70 R17 vs 31x10.50R17 with our handy tire size calculator. They also have a lot of dry rot. For this article, we will use example tires like P26570R17 and LT28570R17. I love Toyo R/T's but they are spendy!! I have personally put about 5k miles on these Guard Dogs and have a love/hate relationship with them on road. Im getting a 2 lift but wanted to not do the body chop that would be needed with a 285. It has a beefy sidewall that aids in traction when aired down. I couldn't tell. Moreover, users have positive opinions when comparing these two types of tires in the snow. If you really abuse your rubber then look for a stronger compound. Other letters can be T, LT or C and ST. Size difference between 265/70 R15 and 285/50 R18 tires. Tire comparisons with silent armor and duratrac. For example, 265 means that the width is 265 millimeters and 285 means that it is 285 millimeters. They are probably better suited for someone who uses their vehicle off-road more frequently but could also work for a daily driver. If you see the T, that means its the temporary tire. If you keep up with rotating them about every 4k miles they will last a long time. There is not a lot out there on the internet when it comes to the overall lifecycle of these so that is yet to be determined. This is a studded-ready option with lots of siping along with little teeth on the base of the tire (TractiveGroove technology) made and designed for enhanced traction in deep mud, and snow. vs 305/25-21 vs 255/35-20 vs 265/35-20 vs 295/25-21 vs 275/30-21 vs 295/30-21 vs 285/30-20 vs 265/35-21 Send us your suggestions and ideas for the tire size calculator! The open shoulder slots, as mentioned above, also provide better traction off-road. A 265-section tire measures 265 millimeters from one sidewall to the other while a 285 tire measures 285 millimeters from one side to the other. Tire Size . On the other hand, the 285 tires are pretty huge. William thanks man, yeah it can be confusing. These have a longer-lasting performance rating compared to the original Destination A/T. Some light trucks have tires designed with LT on them. They look great. These are an all-terrain light truck and SUV tire built to give dependable off-road traction as well as long-lasting durability. Not a bad option if it can last through almost 100K miles. There may be better options out there for extreme to extreme terrain but thats not what the BFG KO2s are intended for. These Toyo Open Country MTs feel great on the road but they do have a hum, and you can hear them once you start picking up speed. The STT Pro is a great off-road tire, but cooper took it a step further with the EVO MT. We recommend trying to find a happy medium between the two options by choosing mid-size tires that offer more traction than standard ones but dont sacrifice fuel economy or wear out your car quickly. The main difference between the two is while the M/S2 is an overall good design the new LTX M/S has been improved to last 10% than their counterpart.