Discover address history, phone, age and more. The Duke of York is set to lose 250,000-a-year in funding from the King as part of a shake-up of private royal finances and has had to sell off assets including a 19million ski chalet to cover the costs of settling the sex scandal case with Virginia Roberts Giuffre - a victim of Jeffrey Epstein. However, that first theory very neatly allows the cops to further theorise that the gun she once owned (which had a history of jamming after the first shot) was the one used at the murder. I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Not normal folks obsessed ones do. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. But the bodies weren't found until April, when a farmer glimpsed a blue baby blanket in a forest 15 miles from Catasauqua. Patricias professional life included short-lived gigs as a Century 21 real estate agent and an Oldsmobile salesperson. Over the years, she has been charged with breaking and entering, intoxication, cruelty to animals and larceny in Davidson, Randolph, Gaston, Anson and Forsyth counties, said Detective Lt. Tony Roberson of the Davidson County Sheriff's Department. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. I want to keep the tons of old jewelry but Im perplexed. Just one example. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). I cant lose them, he told the media. Patricia Rorrer Now: Where is Joann and Alex Katrinak's Killer Today Andrew Tate moans 'they won't let me leave' in prison rant after 'lung Neely's motion on Rorrer's behalf argues that new information from the lab reports show the samples had no roots, while the testing that identified the strands as Rorrer's showed they had roots, The Morning Call reports. ``I told her I would see that her horses was tended to.'. Police obtained samples of her blood and hair, and a microscopic examination revealed similarities to hair found at the crime scene. Search their Criminal Records, Contact Info, Photos and More 1) Andrew Katrinak's Phone & Current Address, Andrew Katrinak's Phone #, Address & More, Andrew Katrinak's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@gmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@yahoo, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@hotmail, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@aol, View Andrew's Hidden Profiles on Facebook and 60+ Networks, andrew****@outlook. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. Patricia made daily phone calls every day but made no calls at all the day before, of and after Joannes murder as she was traveling and knew her phone could track her location. ``Her lawyer said anything we say could be used against her,' Chambers said late Tuesday night. Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Its definitely getting rougher every day, Andrew told the Morning Call. Police say Rorrer put a .22-caliber bullet in the mother's head, strangled the baby and placed him in the dead mother's arms. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. Hoist by your own petard. Exactly And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. But it doesnt make a nonsense of her being the shooter, regardless of their speculation. I also communicated with Patricia via email to get her input on some matters. Do not sell or share my personal information. The longer it took to find the bodies the easier it would be for her alibis to be believed as it wouldve been harder for people to remember if she was at a dance class etc that she regularly attended on that specific date. Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. And Andrews explanation of how the intruder got in through the basement door seemed contrived, according to Grube, who gave an interview to Wrong Man, a 2020 true-crime docuseries from the Starz network, which produced two episodes called The Hang Up about the Rorrer case. Detective Barry Grube found it odd that Andrew fixed the severed phone line before police examined it in essence tampering with evidence. This woman was motivated by an obsession with a man who no longer wanted her. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. More hairs there. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN. Tiffany, it is amazing you have all the answers to these murders! As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. Why? Joann Katrinak murder - Forensic Files Now As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. If you have ever met or been in a relationship with a narcissist, the former partner being with a more young and attractive-looking person would make them go off. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. According to a police affidavit, Rorrer called the Katrinak house in mid-December 1994. Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. I noticed that her defense lawyer and others advocating for her is not mentioning more about the gun. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. They tested the hair last night on Reasonable Doubt using updated technology it is definitely Patricias. The fact that Joanne was found with a hair clutched in her hand that was inconsistent with both her and Patricia (that they conveniently didnt bother to test). For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. She killed Joann, had a fair and impartial trial, so its time to get over it. They found several specimens but not a single one was a match. Police arrest woman in 3-year-old case of slain mother and child This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. A correction to the comment above. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? She is 100% guilty seen 2 programs on this awful murder and read about it as well. Stop trying to prove that everyone who is prosecuted is rightfully prosecuted. The fact that previous boyfriends noted her obsession with Andrew is very, very telling. He helped her take horses to day care centers, where she would take photographs of children with the horses. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? ``They let 'em know who's boss.'. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Or did they? Sorry not sorry. She returned to North Carolina in 1991. Hege described Rorrer as savvy and street-smart and similar to other horse lovers he knows. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. They returned with a guilty verdict and a sentence of two life terms. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. As for the idiots who didnt think Ms. Rorrer guilty of anything more sordid than having zero taste, the simple fact(s) are that: 1) what they claim about such testing (as was done to the hair) wasexcuse me, IS wrong both due to the follow-up AFTER the mDNA test results were made only proved more concretely that Ms. Rorrer WAS the person the hair came from, 2) the inanity about thinking Andy had something to do with it (the simple fact that ALL investigations START by checking the closest, most immediate relative, i.e, a spouse), was after his being thoroughly vouched, to NOT be in ANY way involved, 3) since this case, forensic science has only improved by huge leaps, and that no one including the courts or the Innocence Project will get involved should make it VERY clear, this case is CLOSED. This case is not over yet more to follow only trouble is, law moves along at a pitiful pace. Your assertion that most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense is in fact nonsense the reality is that most people are easily fooled by these biased documentaries who then feel its okay to spout their tripe as if its the gospel. Im inclined to think both Rorrer and Routier are guilty. Its totally irrelevant. (We didnt get into the specifics.). But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. I fail to see exactly why someone cant have an opinion which he/she sees as fact. They are total bs. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Nobody said bodies were intact. There are innocent people in prison. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. She hasnt, she didnt get a hard enough sentence. The bodies of the mother and son were found in April 1995 in a rural, wooded area 15 miles from home. Rorrer's ex-boyfriend, Andrew Katrinak, was the husband of Joann Katrinak and Alex's father. Copyright 2023 PeekYou.com. Some volunteered their own time for this duty, Hege said. . For more information governing use of our site, please review our Terms of Service. ``I didn't know her back then, but I don't think she could begin to do what she's been accused of doing,' Myers said. The news comes after a Romanian court rejected appeals from Mr Tates legal team against a 30-day extension in jail earlier this week. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. They retested hair from the car in 2008 with updated new technology. Their bodies were found nearly four months later. You are absolutely right. Further, an early FBI report said the hairs found in the car had no roots which contain the DNA suggesting an evidence switcheroo. And I can back up that claim by the fact I have read, watched and listened to all there is to know about this case. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). ``I can't believe I was alone with her,' a tearful Bruner said Tuesday evening. Not everything is a conspiracy. Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! Both were deceased. The investigation is a bit out of place, but the DNA test can be altered only if its made just from a pen, because otherwise it is not possible, only if they said they did it and didnt actually do it, which would be quite difficult because it would mean complicity between many persons. The charges: two counts of kidnapping and two counts of murder. If you look at the crime scene picture, only parts of the mother seem preserved. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. One on one? Im trying to understand exactly your reasoning asking me staying away from this site because of my insulting remarks! New state, new man. Rorrer called Myers collect from the jail Tuesday afternoon. This woman killed and is where she belongs! She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! The article also notes that most inmates earn around 19 cent an hour at their jobs and must pay $5 each time they need medical attention or medicine. After researching this case more thoroughly, I stand corrected about the time it took the jury to return a verdict. We lived close to one another. A person tried in a court of law and then found guilty is not the be-all and end-all to the case. Keep up your delusions. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? Perhaps that would lessen your fright. Her mother, Patricia Chambers, provided day care for their baby son, Charles. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. The difference was made by the investigation, Interpol has some good detectives who do not play with peoples freedom and who do not use American techniques such as pictures, lets compare hair color after pictures bullshit, not even with the performance of todays cameras such a thing is not allowed, the issue of dismantling the alibi only with indirect evidence, like that her name was not in the notebook, a European court would withdrew it immediately, you cant go with a thing like this, its called inconclusive proof, even the fact that one of the witnesses said that the business was not opened where she said it was that day, its inconclusive, the accused can say that he/she forgot, was there and left, and his alibi I dont know how it was verified, but what should been verified first were the contacts between him and her, if he contacted her before that, if she had been contacted from public phone for example before the murder, how many times, when etc, if he was near the places where she was until the murder, things like that. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. And she will have to answer eventually. (Lehighvalleylive.com file photo). Search it out and check for yourself. The attorney, Craig Neely, also argues he has the testimony of a police officer who worked on the case to back up his claim, according to the report. I really never thought of it again.. For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. I dont even know its Christmas.. It says that Andrew reported the cut phone lines and broken pad lock was reported to the police at 10:30. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. By posting your comment you agree to our house rules. However, Romanian officials have refused the request, saying he can be attended to in Romania. They lived together in Salisbury Township, Pa., for about two years, but they . Sir I would not kill somebody and I definitely wouldnt kill somebody I never met, Rorrer said. This is not a health issue to be taken lightly and all due diligence is being made to make sure he gets the best medical care that is available to him., The influencer has made appeals against his detention since his arrest. Kurt Bresswein may be reached at kbresswein@lehighvalleylive.com. This is the most ridiculous take ever! I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Her diary certainly indicates some disturbed thinking. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. Instead, she took the girl to Myers' stables just about every day. 2 Lehigh Valley murder cases explored this week on TV Andrew Katrinak said he found his basement door ajar and removed from its hinges, and a phone line had been cut. Patricia Rorrer is as guilty as sin, and she needs to stay right where shes at. The district attorney's office dismissed as offensiveNeely's implications on the evidence, according to the newspaper's report. Its barely visible in the picture. Just one example. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? Andrew Katrinak Facebook, Instagram & Twitter on PeekYou Claps! Trash-talking ex. And James Pfeiffer and Jim Burke have remained on her side. Andrew Katrinak. I would like to tell you that there is many errors in this article, that I would love to send to you the proof of each one. Other loyal friends and associates attested to Patricias kindness toward horses and devotion to her daughter, whom she took along as she worked in stables. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. The 36-year-old former kickboxer and his brother have been imprisoned in Romania since late December on suspected rape and human trafficking offences. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? But thats just some of the ammo on Team Patricias battleship. Prince Andrew has offered to run some of the prestigious Royal estates as part of his negotiations to leave his Royal mansion - with King Charles reportedly telling him 'there is no chance of that happening'. Have you read the book? Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Andrew Katrinak - Forensic Files Now Its nine minutes into the video. Its sad that some people just cant move on and continue to feel that what they want is going to be THEIRS regardless. No explanation given. They also revealed that the Duke had pleaded with the King for an increased Royal responsibility as he feels 'he deserves to still be treated like a senior royal'. But none of those charges ever stuck. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Authorities said the 3-month-old died either of suffocation or of exposure while lying on his mother's stomach. Andrew Joseph Katrinak, 68 - Drake, CO - Has Court or Arrest Records So, lets take your response one step at a time. Browse Locations. That did amuse me I have to say, but youre way off target there Im more than happy with my state of mind before and after reading any of these comments. He took two tests and there was deception detected in BOTH. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. Andrew told investigators that the unpleasant phone call between Joann and Patricia happened just three days before his wifes disappearance. And the obvious answer is Ill tell you why (which really is common knowledge). When Joann Katrinak and the baby didn't show up for a planned afternoon of Christmas shopping on Dec. 15, Katrinak called the police. Sometimes Teresa goes by various nicknames including Teresa Jean Katrinak, Teresa J Benchini, Teresa J Benckini and Teresa J Katrinak. no blood, no finger-prints and no soil evidence it was as if the car had been wiped clean stated the attending investigating police officer!That itself has to be considered highly suspicious and cast doubt on the hair evidence which WAS found. But investigators conceded they had no solid evidence against Andrew. I dont think so. Once, when a gun-wielding farmer and his buddy caught Patricia and Gary riding motorcycles on his field, Patricia walked up and got in their faces and argued, Gary recalled to the Morning Call. Fact is she wasnt and all of her alibis were proven to be lies. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? Testimony from Walter Blalock contradicted Patricias claim that she never had a gun. Andrew married Mary A Katrinak (born Ondek). Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. 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